Sometime You're The Pigeon, Sometimes You're The Statue

6 min, Netherlands. Sometimes we shit on people, and sometimes people shit on us. Erik is still in the proces of finding out what he is : the pigeon or the statue. At the moment he is both. Sometimes, Sometimes is our second short film. After our award-winning first short, KLEI (CLAY), we decided to come closer. With Klei we were more onlookers from a distance. Now we’re very close, almost under the skin of Erik. We are almost in his head.

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Ruud Matthijssen & Thijs Gilbert (NL)

Thijs Gilbert is a writer, actor and director from the Netherlands. He writes for television, theatre and works as an actor. He is a big fan of Daniil Charms and Joseph Campbell and he loves cheese.

Ruud Matthijssen is an actor and director from the Netherlands. He is best known for his role in Features as : New Kids Turbo and New Kids Nitro. He is a big fan of Haruki Murakami and he loves ice-cream.


Together they made 3 short films: KLEI (2014) Sometimes You're The Pigeon, Sometimes You're the Statue. (2016) VRIJ (2017) KLEI won 'best non-budget' at KIXFF (Seoul) Sometimes You're The Pigeon, Sometimes You're the Statue won 'best experimental' at BELIFF (London)

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